Since long time ago I intended to write something about the e-cig and the fate they face in so called "free country"
I can address the issue from 2 different points: from the prespective of an ex-smoker(42 years of killing myself)
and from perspective of importer of this wonderful,magic devise.
During my smoking career I did made several unsuccessful attempts to quit smoking.
I tried anything and everything including even hypnosis and acupuncture.;
All in vain.Sooner or later (rather sooner) i was smoking again trying to catch up the poison I missed during my short fight with this deadly habit.
Until several years ago ,by sheer accident I come across the new Chinese devise:e-cigs
From the beginning I was not very hopeful but all this changed when I got my first "demonstration' model from factory.
THIS WAS IT !!!
The little gadget almost identical with smoking: hands busy..fake smoke..habitual gestures supported plus small amount of nicotine to keep the cravings at bay.
To cut long story short: after 42 years I quit!
Just like that.
From the beginning my aim was to reduce the amount of nicotine to zero and WITHOUT ANY DRAMAS,DURING 6-7 MONTHS I reached my goal.
That was several years ago.
Today ,January 2017 I still don't smoke and never will.
But the situation outside changed.
Everybody knows that a politician is a whore who goes in to politics to grab as much money or privileges as possible before he/she gets booted during next shuffle among thieves known as election.
It was obvious from the beginning that master of our politicians-in this case huge tobacco companies- will kick their puppies into action sooner or later because they (tobacco manufacturers)were losing victims.
Do not have any illusions: government-any government-doesn't give a flying shit about your health,about money you are wasting to support the habit,money missing from family budget because of this deadly but regular expenditure.
They have to pretend that they do hence the:"Quit smoking" ads on TV but reality is 100% different.
They want you smoking!
The more the better.
Because cigarettes bring in the tax money from manufacturers and this is all about money.
The more in government coffers the more opportunities to wet the beak under any pretext.
Apart from the fact that officially blessed "quit smoking" products are not working,are more expensive then cigarettes themselves and on many occasion are manufactured by the same tobacco companies which got you addicted at the first place.
Nicotine as a drug is MORE ADDICTIVE THEN HEROIN.
YOU CAN EASILY CONFIRM IT EVERYDAY WATCHING HOW OFTEN DO YOU NEED NEXT HIT.
AND ALL OF SUDDEN E-CIGS WERE DESTROYING ALL THIS WONDERFUL PLAN!!!
People were quitting in thousands.
To support vaping as the new form of "smoking' was called cost approx $ 10 per fortnight because the 30 ml bottle of liquid use to manufacture the fake smoke (vegetable oli) will last that long.
5 dollars per week instead of hundreds?!
And without filling your body with tar and got knows what else they mix with tobacco during the production.
Because-what many people don't' know- you do not get cancer from nicotine!
Cancer-you get from TAR,the black asphalt which is by product of smoke.
Nicotine hits you blood stream,gives you a kick and is gone without doing permanent harm to your body.
Apart from 2000 thousand other poisons present in smoke.
Of course such outrageous situation could not be tolerated !!
Orders come from the top to keep the dogs on the bottom busy and about 1,5 years ago we-importers-got the message from so called "government" that the liquids for e-cigs can't contain nicotine.
To every normal thinking person I don't have to explain why such a move but lets do it for the most naive: by removing the small amount of drug we,smokers ,are enslaved to our masters throw us back to a place where -being tortured by craving we will reach for the product which could provide the relieve :cigarettes or patches,chewing gums,spray etc CONTAINING THE DRUG OUR BODY IS CRAVING FOR.
OF COURSE FOR YOU OWN GOOD
NEXT STEP IN PLEASING THE PAY MASTERS OUR POLITICIANS DID ABOUT A YEARS AGO WHEN -UNDER THE PRETEXT OF TAKING CARE FOR US OF COURSE-THOSE PROSTITUTES WHO CALL THEMSELF POLITICIANS INTRODUCED EVEN MORE RESTRICTIONS .
They don't have the guts -yet-to pronounce the e-cigs-illegal but you will search in vain for those helpers on you local weekend market or displayed in shop.
The arguments used to support such motion are as stupid and perverted as the authors of those new laws.
Nothing new here.
At the same time we can face a black propaganda ,informations injection to population by the word of mouth about the angers associated with the e-cigarettes etc.
All this to force you back in to a slavery of manufacturers of this legal death and to make sure that money in politicians pockets will be never short.
Because this is the bottom line.
Bellow I will publish the official law related to e-cigs.
Please note that all of sudden they seems to be the worse think under the sun and even a short glimpse of this deadly product can harm you:)
Not mentioning the hefty fine shop owner will have to pay to ....you know:)
And-if you do not protest -my dear fellow Australians this fantastic way to escape from smoking,the best and cheapest on the market will vanish in thin air.
Please note that the nicotine seems to be harmful only in e-cigs:)
In patches,chewing gum etc it is losing it's deadly sting:)
Some parts of this new legislation are so absurd that I have to ask myself:do they think that I'm as stupid as they are hence I will swallow all this crap without barfing?:
Be your own judge.
Please read.And if you have any of the free souls left please spend 20 cents and call you local political whore in you area and ask few questions about that.
"Freedom of speech.Use it or lose it"
Of course you don't have to worry abut getting in trouble for opening your mouth because you are a free person in free country
Key facts about electronic cigarettes and the law in NSW:
• The sale of liquid nicotine, including in liquids
in electronic cigarettes, is illegal under NSW
Poisons legislation (Poisons and Therapeutic
Goods Regulation 2008) without approval
from the NSW Ministry of Health unless the
product is listed or registered on the Australian
Register of Therapeutic Goods, where other
• The sale of electronic cigarettes that make
a therapeutic claim and are not listed or
registered on the Australian Register of
Therapeutic Goods is illegal under national
and NSW Poisons legislation. There are
currently no electronic cigarette products,
with or without nicotine, on the Australian
Register of Therapeutic Goods.
• From 1 September 2015, it is an offence to sell
e-cigarettes and accessories to minors under
the age of 18 under the Public Health Tobacco
Act 2008 (the Act).
(It always was-Jerzy)
From 1 December, many of
the provisions that apply to tobacco products in
relation to display and advertising of
e-cigarettes and accessories will also apply to
e-cigarettes and accessories under the Act.
The sale of electronic cigarettes
which contain nicotine.
The sale of liquid nicotine, including in liquids in
electronic cigarettes, is illegal under NSW Poisons
legislation (Poisons and Therapeutic Goods
Regulation 2008) without approval from the NSW
Ministry of Health unless the product is listed or
registered on the Australian Register of
Therapeutic Goods, where other restrictions
apply. The Ministry has not issued any approvals
for the sale of liquid nicotine for use in
Nicotine, other than for approved therapeutic use
or in tobacco prepared and packed for smoking,
is a Schedule 7 dangerous poison under the
national Standard for the Uniform Scheduling of
Medicines and Poisons (Poisons Standard). This
makes nicotine a Schedule 7 dangerous poison in
the NSW Poisons List.
The unauthorised supply of a Schedule 7 poison
for human use in any product, including electronic
cigarettes and e-liquids, is an offence under
clause 20 of the Poisons and Therapeutic Goods
Regulation 2008 (NSW).
Anyone who sells
electronic cigarettes containing liquid nicotine or
e-liquids containing nicotine without approval
from the NSW Ministry of Health may be
prosecuted with fines of up to $1100 for each
It is important to know that electronic cigarettes
often contain nicotine even when they are not
labelled as such.
It is an offence under clause 7 of
the Poisons and Therapeutic Goods Regulation
2008 (NSW) to sell a Schedule 7 product
containing nicotine which is not labelled and
packaged as a Schedule 7 dangerous poison.
A Schedule 7 dangerous poison must have
the strength and quantity of the poison (nicotine)
clearly written on the main label of the package
and the immediate container/s.
Anyone who sells electronic cigarettes or e-liquids
that contain nicotine but are not labelled as such
may be prosecuted under both clause 20 and
clause 7 of the Poisons and Therapeutic Goods
Regulation 2008 (NSW).
All retailers, suppliers and manufacturers are
responsible for ensuring all of their products
comply with relevant legislation.
If you see an electronic cigarette or e-liquid that is
labelled as containing nicotine, you can report this
to the Pharmaceutical Services at NSW Health.
(Be a snitch !Do your citizen's duty! DOB ..DOB...DOB..
Sorry..That was from Stalin's speech..Wrong book:)-Jerzy)
Visit http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/pharmaceutical for
The sale of electronic cigarettes
which make a therapeutic claim
In Australia, it is illegal to sell anything that
makes a therapeutic claim unless the product
is listed or registered on the Australian Register
of Therapeutic Goods.
There are currently no
electronic cigarette products, with or without
nicotine, on the Australian Register of
If a claim is made that a product has a
therapeutic purpose as defined by the TGA, it
must be listed or registered as a ‘therapeutic
good’ with the TGA. A claim such as ‘this
product will help you to quit or reduce smoking’
is considered to be a therapeutic claim.
Under the national Therapeutic Goods Act 1989,
therapeutic claims include claims made on labels,
leaflets, websites, promotions, advertisements,
posters, verbally or in any other form, whether
made directly by the supplier or by quoting
testimonials from users. Information about
therapeutic goods can be found on the TGA
The importation or supply of goods that make a
therapeutic claim and that are not registered or
listed with the TGA is an offence under both
NSW (Poisons and Therapeutic Goods Act 1966)
and national (Therapeutic Goods Act 1989)
The maximum penalty for this offence
for importers, manufacturers, suppliers and
retailers under national legislation is up to five
years imprisonment and/or fines of up to
Information in relation to advertising that makes
therapeutic claims should be sought from the
TGA. The TGA can be contacted on 1800 020
653 or visit the TGA website.
If you see an electronic cigarette or e-liquid
that makes a therapeutic claim, you can report
this to Pharmaceutical Services at the NSW
Ministry of Health.
Electronic cigarettes and their
relation to NSW tobacco laws.
At present, electronic cigarettes do not come
under the Smoke-free Environment Act 2000
This is because electronic cigarettes
do not emit ‘smoke’ and are not considered
to be ‘ignited tobacco products’ as defined in
section 4 of the Smoke-free Environment Act
2000 (NSW). Electronic cigarettes are also
considered to fall outside the definition of
products resembling tobacco products under
section 21 of the Public Health (Tobacco)
Act 2008 (NSW).
The Public Health (Tobacco) Amendment
(E-Cigarettes) Act 2015, which amends the
Public Health (Tobacco) Act 2008 (the Act), was
passed by the NSW Parliament on 25 June 2015.
The changes to the Act define e-cigarettes and
accessories to be separate from tobacco
products. The Act makes many of the provisions
that apply to tobacco products also apply to
e-cigarettes and e-cigarette accessories.
The changes that commence on 1 September
• It is an offence to sell e-cigarettes and
accessories to minors under the age of 18.
• It is an offence for adults to buy e-cigarettes
and accessories on behalf of minors.
• It is an offence to operate or use a vending
machine that dispenses e-cigarettes on behalf
of a minor.
Vending machines are only able to be placed in a
bar or gaming machine area of a hotel, club or
casino restricted to over 18s. No exemptions for
staff amenity areas are allowed.
The operation of e-cigarette vending machines
need to be controlled by members of staff, either
through activation by remote control or some
other means; or the supply of tobacco vending
NSW Police have the power to seize an
e-cigarette that is in the possession of a person
under the age of 18.
The changes that commence on 1 December
• It will be an offence to use e-cigarettes in cars
with children under 16 present.
(I wonder why?Just few verses above they said that vapor is not smoke -Jerzy)
Now is the funny part:
• New provisions will apply to the display
and advertising of e-cigarettes and accessories
Display of e-cigarettes and accessories.
Retailers will need to ensure that e-cigarettes
and accessories cannot be seen by the public
from inside or outside the premises.
(How about the same rules to alcohol and pornography at petrol stations ?-Jerzy)
This applies to vending machines in the same fashion as all
other storage solutions.
Retailers will be restricted to selling e-cigarettes
and accessories from a single point of sale in each
This means that these products can
only be sold from one cash register at a time in
each retail outlet (although it does not mean that
the same cash register must be used all the time).
A person will not be able to carry an e-cigarette
or accessory in any public place for the purpose
of selling these products to persons in that place.
E-cigarettes and accessories will not be able to be
sold from any booth, tent or other temporary
enclosure (including a market stall or stand),
whether or not part of the booth, tent or
enclosure is permanent, or from any mobile
structure, vehicle or vessel.
Advertising and Promotion
of E-cigarettes and accessories
A person will not be able to give out free samples
of e-cigarettes and accessories.
A person will not be able to display an e-cigarette
advertisement so that it can be seen or heard
from a public place.
An e-cigarette advertisement
means writing or any still or moving picture, sign,
symbol or other visual image or audible message
that gives publicity to or is intended to promote
the purchase of an e-cigarette product.
This excludes radio or television broadcast as the
current tobacco legislation for these mediums is
under national legislation.
(IN other words:you can advertise cigarettes killing you but you get in deep trouble if you try to advertise a healthy solution to poison blessed by our masters Jerzy)
A person will not be able promote or publicise an
e-cigarette product or a trademark or brand
name of an e-cigarette product through
sponsorship, which includes a scholarship, prize,
gift or other benefit, and any financial
arrangement for the direction, promotion or
publicity of e-cigarette products through the
medium of sporting, arts, youth, educational or
other like activities.
(Cancel the Winfield cup you double faced turds-Jerzy )
Shopper Loyalty Programs
Retailers will need to ensure that e-cigarettes and
accessories are excluded from shopper loyalty
programs. This means that under the Act, the
following programs will not be permitted:
• Any program under which a gift or other benefit
could be obtained by the purchaser of
e-cigarettes and accessories (regardless of
whether the program extends to the purchase of
other products); or
• Any program under which a purchaser of goods
or products may be entitled to a gift of
e-cigarettes and accessories (regardless of
whether the purchaser may choose to accept
another type of gift instead).
Confectionary or products that resemble toys
A person will not be able to sell any confectionery
or other food or any toy, amusement or other
product that resembles an e-cigarette or
Only one e-cigarette and accessories vending
machine per licensed premises will be allowed.
(Could we apply this wisdom to poker machines as well?-Jerzy)
E-cigarette and accessories vending machines do
not constitute a “point of sale” under the Public
Health (Tobacco) Act 2008. Therefore, licensed
premises will still be able to sell e-cigarette and
accessories from one vending machine and may
also sell e-cigarette and accessories from one
E-cigarette vending machine owners and lessees
will need to ensure that:
• E-cigarette and accessories in a vending
machine cannot be seen by members of the
• there is no information about or representations
of E-cigarette and accessories or packages
displayed on the vending machine (except
The sale of e-cigarettes and accessories to a
minor is subject to the same maximum penalty
as the sale of a tobacco product to a minor
– that is, $11,000 for an individual or $55,000
for a corporation and, for repeat offenders,
$55,000 for an individual and $110,000 for a
Penalties for all other offences
relating to e-cigarettes will also be in line with
existing penalties for tobacco products.
pdf for further information.
The use of electronic
cigarettes in public places.
The use of electronic cigarettes, whether they
contain nicotine or not, is not against the law
under the Smoke-free Environment Act 2000
(NSW). This means it is not against this law to use
them in indoor and outdoor public places where it
is against the law to smoke.
This does not prevent individual establishments
and workplaces from developing their own
policies to ban patrons and staff using electronic
cigarettes on their premises.
From 1 December 2015, the offence to use
e-cigarettes in cars with children under 16 present
Although this relates to where you
can use e-cigarettes, this will come under the
Public Health (Tobacco) Act 2008.
Electronic cigarettes and
national consumer legislation
Under the national Competition and Consumer
Act 2010 (the Act), suppliers of consumer goods
such as electronic cigarettes are responsible for
ensuring the products they supply are safe, fit for
purpose and comply with all applicable legal
Potential suppliers of electronic
cigarettes should ensure that the product, as well
as the chemicals that their users are exposed to,
are safe before they are marketed.
The Act also requires that all representations
or claims made in relation to the supply of
consumer goods are truthful.
Further information on Australian Competition
and Consumer requirements can be found on
the Product Safety Australia Websit
http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/tobacco/Fa ... -legal.pdf
Any comments my dear fellow Australians?
What are electronic cigarettes?
Electronic cigarettes (or e-cigarettes) are battery powered devices which heat liquid (also called e-liquid) into an aerosol which is inhaled into a person’s lungs. The aerosol is often called ‘vapour’.
E-cigarettes are also called electronic nicotine delivery systems (ENDS), alternative nicotine delivery systems (ANDS), or e-cigs.
Unlike tobacco cigarettes, where the smoke from burning tobacco is inhaled, the e-cigarette user inhales an aerosol which may contain nicotine, propylene glycol and other chemicals into their lungs. Inhaling the aerosol is usually called ‘vaping’.
When e-cigarette is being used, the user inhales and exhales the vapour which may give the appearance of smoke.
E-liquids are often flavoured, with over 7,000 flavours available such as tobacco, confectionery, fruit and chocolate. They may or may not contain nicotine and may or may not be labelled as containing nicotine.
E-cigarettes may be shaped and coloured to make them look like cigarettes or other tobacco products like cigars, cigarillos, pipes, hookahs or shishas. E-cigarettes are also sometimes made to look like everyday items such as pens or USB memory sticks.
E-cigarettes can either be disposable or re-useable. Most devices include a battery, an airflow sensor (to activate the power from the battery), an aerosol generator (to turn the e-liquid into an aerosol) and e-liquid.
Are e-cigarettes legal in NSW?
On 25 June 2015, the NSW Parliament passed the Public Health (Tobacco) Amendment (E-cigarettes) Act 2015 to amend the Public Health (Tobacco) Act 2008. The Act was assented on 30 June 2015. The changes to the Act define e-cigarettes and e-cigarette accessories to be separate from tobacco products. The Act makes many of the provisions that apply to tobacco products also apply to e-cigarette and e-cigarette accessories.
The changes commenced in two stages.
From 1 September 2015 it is an offence:
to sell e-cigarettes and e-cigarette accessories to minors under the age of 18
for adults to buy e-cigarettes and e-cigarette accessories on behalf of minors
to operate or use a vending machine that dispenses e-cigarettes and/or e-cigarette accessories on behalf of a minor.
NSW Police have the power to seize an e-cigarette that is in the possession of a person under the age of 18.
From 1 December 2015:
it is an offence to use e-cigarettes in cars with children under the age of 16 present
new provisions apply to the display and advertising of e-cigarettes and accessories.
The sale of e-cigarettes and e-cigarette accessories to a minor is subject to the same maximum penalty as the sale of a tobacco product to a minor:
a penalty of $11,000 for an individual or $55,000 for a corporation; and
for repeat offenders, a penalty of $55,000 for an individual and $110,000 for a corporation.
For more information about these new laws, read the following fact sheets:
Use of e-cigarettes with kids in the car is against the law
Ban on the display of electronic cigarettes and accessories in retail outlets and locations in which they can be sold
Ban on the advertising of electronic cigarettes and accessories
It is important to note that the sale of liquid nicotine, including in liquids used in e-cigarettes, is illegal under NSW Poisons legislation (Poisons and Therapeutic Goods Regulation 2008 NSW) without approval from the NSW Ministry of Health unless the product is listed or registered on the Australian Register of Therapeutic Goods.
If you see an e-cigarette or e-liquid that is labelled as containing nicotine, you can report this to NSW Health by email [email protected].
To find out more about the law and e-cigarettes, read Are electronic cigarettes legal in NSW? It includes information about NSW tobacco legislation, NSW poisons legislation and national therapeutics legislation.
Are e-cigarettes and liquids safe?
To find out more about whether e-cigarettes and their liquids are safe, read Are electronic cigarettes and liquids safe?
Can e-cigarettes help me to quit smoking?
To find out more about whether e-cigarettes can help you to quit smoking, read Can electronic cigarettes help me to quit smoking?
The NSW Government encourages all smokers to quit smoking. You can get help from the Quitline 13 7848; a free telephone based counselling service, the iCanQuit website and your General Practitioner or pharmacist.
Public health warning
Some e-cigarettes and e-liquids which are labelled as containing no nicotine have been found upon analysis in Australia to actually contain significant quantities of nicotine. Scientific testing undertaken by the NSW Ministry of Health showed that many of the liquids used in e-cigarettes contained high levels of nicotine that, if swallowed are potentially lethal. A public health warning was released in October 2013 to raise consumer awareness of the potential risks of these products.
World Health Organization, Electronic nicotine delivery systems: Report by WHO. 2014.
Zhu, S.-H., et al., Four hundred and sixty brands of e-cigarettes and counting: implications for product regulation. Tob Control, 2014. 23 Suppl 3: p. 3-9.
Brown, C.J. and J.M. Cheng, Electronic cigarettes: product characterisation and design considerations. Tob Control, 2014. 23 Suppl 2: p. 4-10.
http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/tobacco/Pa ... ettes.aspx